Comments on: Three Parts

By: yami

yami — Fri, 04 Mar 2005 22:05:00 +0000

Are there cheap circumpolar hop-planes? What airline, Alaska? Must definitely look into it.
Speaking of Alaska Airlines, I flew ‘em to Seattle, and they spent the last 15 minutes of each flight yammering about their credit card. I really don’t appreciate being advertised to like that and hereby advise all y’alls to avoid them when feasible.

By: Yanes

Yanes — Fri, 04 Mar 2005 21:20:00 +0000

in July i’ll be Alaskan!
come visit for American-style cold- that far north, all those northern-ey places squish together

By: yami

yami — Fri, 04 Mar 2005 16:01:00 +0000

So I think we’re on more or less the same page with the concept of strength here. My question is: do you think a strong family, chockfulla love and guidance, can produce men who are generally well-adjusted with the exception of specific blind spots where women and/or sexuality are concerned?
Because there are buckets of people with such blind spots. Nuturing plays a huge role in all of this - but I just don’t think it’s accurate to describe it as strictly a function of the amount of nurturing, guidance, family-time, etc. a boy recieves. The content of that guidance (& role-modeling & etc.) matters too. This country has more wingnuts lovingly guiding and supporting their children through wingnuttery than it has McDonaldses…

By: des von bladet

des von bladet — Fri, 04 Mar 2005 14:47:00 +0000

Yami: Well, Bristle is no-wise cheap, but it isn’t London. And there’s plenty of countryside around, I have heard. There’s Wales just a bit to the left, too. Lots of sheeps in Wales.

By: denisdekat

denisdekat — Fri, 04 Mar 2005 12:55:00 +0000

Well, I am again looking at the world via my Latino eyes again, I admittedly used a poor or the wrong word/definition then about strong family(as I wanted to capture it). Strong not in wealth, more as in history and values within a family unit tends to create better adjusted folks…
It is hard to capture what I am saying, have not drank coffee yet (and my mind is a fugue of distractions), but I find that folks with less guiding, less family history, they tend to be more wild and problematic… I see these in my fellow boys very much. Boys with loads of family love and support hardly ever turn out nasty. Some boys are hardwired to be more aggressive, but the nurturing plays a big factor at the social interaction aspects of life…
This is sort fo the way I see it…

By: yami

yami — Thu, 03 Mar 2005 15:36:00 +0000

Denisdekat: for tautological definitions of “strong”, certainly. The discombobulated misogynist I mentioned came from what would otherwise have been considered a “strong” family - strong, and super-duper conservative. Many families have hidden disfunctionalities, of course, but it’s neither productive nor polite to speculate about them.
Raising kids to be flexible and gracious in awkward/foreign social situations is a tricky and important thing… but in my experience with adults, this kind of flexibility isn’t very correlated with people’s ability to behave under more familiar/comfortable circumstances, or with any accessible metrics of family strength. Metrics of family unconventionality work a little better, but still aren’t perfect. You really just learn things about people when you’re naked that you would never learn otherwise. (Since all of these things have to do with how they behave around nudity, I don’t recommend this as an educational exercise for office morale-retreats or anything.)
Des: hoorah! London is only slotted for a couple of days at most, we’re seeking inexpensive rural/small-urban charm for the rest of it. How’s Bristle for the cashwise?

By: des von bladet

des von bladet — Thu, 03 Mar 2005 13:08:00 +0000

Yow! I’d certainly be very glad to have a chance to reciprocally exhibit some of London’s many attractive County Fairs!
(You do realise, though, that London is startlingly expensive, isn’t it? A one-day travel card is cruising at 6 quid, which is over 10 of your USDs.)

By: denisdekat

denisdekat — Thu, 03 Mar 2005 11:58:00 +0000

What I mean by class is upbringing. You will find that strong family backgrounds tend to create better adjusted individuals who behave with more respect and grace. Not so much rich versus poor really in my explanation

By: Rana

Rana — Thu, 03 Mar 2005 03:45:00 +0000

What can I say? Sticking me alone in a room with Google and a fast ‘net connection is dangerous!

By: yami

yami — Wed, 02 Mar 2005 17:49:00 +0000

Denisdekat: There are lumpers and splitters; today I’m a lumper. Caltech is obviously not the most diverse institution in the world, classwise or otherwise, but I really don’t think class is a productive split here.
Rana: tak!