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	<title>Comments on: Publication and Citation Rates of Female Earthquake Engineers</title>
	<link>http://greengabbro.net/2006/08/09/publication-and-citation-rates-of-female-earthquake-engineers/</link>
	<description>rock out to the apparatus</description>
	<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 04:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Lab Lemming</title>
		<link>http://greengabbro.net/2006/08/09/publication-and-citation-rates-of-female-earthquake-engineers/#comment-3058</link>
		<dc:creator>Lab Lemming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2006 22:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it possible that low engineering citation rates are related to engineers' inability to read?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it possible that low engineering citation rates are related to engineers&#8217; inability to read?</p>
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		<title>By: yami</title>
		<link>http://greengabbro.net/2006/08/09/publication-and-citation-rates-of-female-earthquake-engineers/#comment-3046</link>
		<dc:creator>yami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2006 01:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://greengabbro.net/2006/08/09/publication-and-citation-rates-of-female-earthquake-engineers/#comment-3046</guid>
		<description>Yup.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup.</p>
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		<title>By: Lab Lemming</title>
		<link>http://greengabbro.net/2006/08/09/publication-and-citation-rates-of-female-earthquake-engineers/#comment-3044</link>
		<dc:creator>Lab Lemming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2006 00:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://greengabbro.net/2006/08/09/publication-and-citation-rates-of-female-earthquake-engineers/#comment-3044</guid>
		<description>Speaking of Female earthquake engineers, did Lynn Salvati leave Berkeley before you got there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of Female earthquake engineers, did Lynn Salvati leave Berkeley before you got there?</p>
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		<title>By: yami</title>
		<link>http://greengabbro.net/2006/08/09/publication-and-citation-rates-of-female-earthquake-engineers/#comment-3036</link>
		<dc:creator>yami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2006 18:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://greengabbro.net/2006/08/09/publication-and-citation-rates-of-female-earthquake-engineers/#comment-3036</guid>
		<description>Heh. I actually assumed that civil engineering's low citation rates are due to the field's propensity for work that is mainly useful to industry...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh. I actually assumed that civil engineering&#8217;s low citation rates are due to the field&#8217;s propensity for work that is mainly useful to industry&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: John Vidale</title>
		<link>http://greengabbro.net/2006/08/09/publication-and-citation-rates-of-female-earthquake-engineers/#comment-3035</link>
		<dc:creator>John Vidale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2006 18:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://greengabbro.net/2006/08/09/publication-and-citation-rates-of-female-earthquake-engineers/#comment-3035</guid>
		<description>I like Trifunac's footnote #2:

Ray Bowen, assistant director for engineering at the National Science Foundation said that this â€œdoes suggest that a lot of work is generally without utility in the short-term sense.â€ Frank Press, the president of the National Academy of Sciences, noted that â€œthere are obvious concerns which are worrisomeâ€”namely that the work is redundant, it's me-too type of follow-on papers, or the journals are printing too much.â€ To J. Duderstadt, University of Michigan President, the growing number of journals and the high number of uncited articles simply confirm a suspicion that academic culture encourages spurious publication. â€œIt is pretty strong evidence of how fragmented scientific work has become, and the kinds of pressures which drive people to stress number of publications rather than quality of publications.â€ â€œThe obvious interpretation is that the publish-or-perish syndrome is still operating in force,â€ said David Helfand the chairman of the astronomy department at Columbia University, while the editor of the Journal of the American Chemical Society Allen Bard concluded that â€œin many ways, publication no longer represents a way of communicating with your scientific peers, but a way to enhance your status and accumulate points for promotion and grantsâ€.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like Trifunac&#8217;s footnote #2:</p>
<p>Ray Bowen, assistant director for engineering at the National Science Foundation said that this â€œdoes suggest that a lot of work is generally without utility in the short-term sense.â€ Frank Press, the president of the National Academy of Sciences, noted that â€œthere are obvious concerns which are worrisomeâ€”namely that the work is redundant, it&#8217;s me-too type of follow-on papers, or the journals are printing too much.â€ To J. Duderstadt, University of Michigan President, the growing number of journals and the high number of uncited articles simply confirm a suspicion that academic culture encourages spurious publication. â€œIt is pretty strong evidence of how fragmented scientific work has become, and the kinds of pressures which drive people to stress number of publications rather than quality of publications.â€ â€œThe obvious interpretation is that the publish-or-perish syndrome is still operating in force,â€ said David Helfand the chairman of the astronomy department at Columbia University, while the editor of the Journal of the American Chemical Society Allen Bard concluded that â€œin many ways, publication no longer represents a way of communicating with your scientific peers, but a way to enhance your status and accumulate points for promotion and grantsâ€.</p>
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