Comments on: How to Earn Your Diversity Cookie Without Doing a Damn Thing http://greengabbro.net/2007/12/04/how-to-earn-your-diversity-cookie-without-doing-a-damn-thing/ rock out to the apparatus Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:09:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Lab Lemming http://greengabbro.net/2007/12/04/how-to-earn-your-diversity-cookie-without-doing-a-damn-thing/#comment-23260 Lab Lemming Fri, 07 Dec 2007 14:28:45 +0000 http://greengabbro.net/2007/12/04/how-to-earn-your-diversity-cookie-without-doing-a-damn-thing/#comment-23260 Sorry, Ma'am, but that is all 100% legalese goobledygook language. The meaning is irrelevant, just as long as they can show that they have it written down. Try googling the last sentence like you do with your student's papers... Sorry, Ma’am, but that is all 100% legalese goobledygook language. The meaning is irrelevant, just as long as they can show that they have it written down. Try googling the last sentence like you do with your student’s papers…

]]> By: Andrew Alden http://greengabbro.net/2007/12/04/how-to-earn-your-diversity-cookie-without-doing-a-damn-thing/#comment-23237 Andrew Alden Wed, 05 Dec 2007 21:36:50 +0000 http://greengabbro.net/2007/12/04/how-to-earn-your-diversity-cookie-without-doing-a-damn-thing/#comment-23237 As I understand it, "affirmative action" has always meant doing extra outreach to underserved populations. Later it took on a connotation of giving applicants from the underserved groups an extra thumb on the scale when all else is equal, as a tie-breaker. Once the job applications are in, though, the evaluation and hiring processes are supposed to be color- and gender-blind. I'm happy to see that the site you linked to bears me out. Nevertheless, I agree that a lot of white men have this unreasonable fear. As I understand it, “affirmative action” has always meant doing extra outreach to underserved populations. Later it took on a connotation of giving applicants from the underserved groups an extra thumb on the scale when all else is equal, as a tie-breaker. Once the job applications are in, though, the evaluation and hiring processes are supposed to be color- and gender-blind. I’m happy to see that the site you linked to bears me out. Nevertheless, I agree that a lot of white men have this unreasonable fear.

]]> By: BrianR http://greengabbro.net/2007/12/04/how-to-earn-your-diversity-cookie-without-doing-a-damn-thing/#comment-23221 BrianR Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:12:08 +0000 http://greengabbro.net/2007/12/04/how-to-earn-your-diversity-cookie-without-doing-a-damn-thing/#comment-23221 Possibly. But, it is reasonable to assume that not everybody knows what affirmative action means, thus they feel the need to define it. Especially those who haven't bee in the States very long. You could be right though... Possibly. But, it is reasonable to assume that not everybody knows what affirmative action means, thus they feel the need to define it. Especially those who haven’t bee in the States very long.

You could be right though…

]]> By: yami http://greengabbro.net/2007/12/04/how-to-earn-your-diversity-cookie-without-doing-a-damn-thing/#comment-23204 yami Wed, 05 Dec 2007 06:22:54 +0000 http://greengabbro.net/2007/12/04/how-to-earn-your-diversity-cookie-without-doing-a-damn-thing/#comment-23204 Huh, this'll show me to spout off without Googling - apparently <a href="http://www.kumc.edu/eoo/aff.html" rel="nofollow">"affirmative action employer" has a legal definition</a> in the world of awarding federal government contracts. Weird. I still think that last sentence is to avoid scaring the white men, though. Huh, this’ll show me to spout off without Googling - apparently “affirmative action employer” has a legal definition in the world of awarding federal government contracts.

Weird. I still think that last sentence is to avoid scaring the white men, though.

]]> By: yami http://greengabbro.net/2007/12/04/how-to-earn-your-diversity-cookie-without-doing-a-damn-thing/#comment-23203 yami Wed, 05 Dec 2007 06:12:51 +0000 http://greengabbro.net/2007/12/04/how-to-earn-your-diversity-cookie-without-doing-a-damn-thing/#comment-23203 The EOE bit is legal boilerplate, but I've never seen anyone claim to be an "affirmative action employer" before. Though now that you mention it, I can imagine a variety of weird political motivations for creating a legal definition or boilerplate use of "affirmative action" that doesn't match the common use of the phrase. The EOE bit is legal boilerplate, but I’ve never seen anyone claim to be an “affirmative action employer” before.

Though now that you mention it, I can imagine a variety of weird political motivations for creating a legal definition or boilerplate use of “affirmative action” that doesn’t match the common use of the phrase.

]]> By: BrianR http://greengabbro.net/2007/12/04/how-to-earn-your-diversity-cookie-without-doing-a-damn-thing/#comment-23202 BrianR Wed, 05 Dec 2007 06:04:31 +0000 http://greengabbro.net/2007/12/04/how-to-earn-your-diversity-cookie-without-doing-a-damn-thing/#comment-23202 I'm not too familiar with this, but in some cases it's part of the law to state it on ads. I'm not sure about this specific case, but postings for faculty jobs, for example, typically have that same blurb at the bottom about 'equal opportunity employer' ... and a lot of the wording is exactly the same from ad to ad, which makes me think it's part of the law that it has to be there. But, like I said, I don't really know so i'm just shootin' from the hip here. I’m not too familiar with this, but in some cases it’s part of the law to state it on ads. I’m not sure about this specific case, but postings for faculty jobs, for example, typically have that same blurb at the bottom about ‘equal opportunity employer’ … and a lot of the wording is exactly the same from ad to ad, which makes me think it’s part of the law that it has to be there. But, like I said, I don’t really know so i’m just shootin’ from the hip here.

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